David Grusch, former National Reconnaissance Officer Representative of Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena Task Force at the U.S. Department of Defense, is sworn-in during a House Oversight Committee hearing titled “Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency” on Capitol Hill, July 26, 2023 in Washington, DC. Image Credit: AFP

Three former military officers told Congress they saw unexplained flying objects and one of them claimed the US government is secretly holding on to extraterrestrial wreckage.

The Pentagon denies that they have a destroyed alien spacecraft.

Ryan Graves, a former F-18 pilot for the Navy, said that he witnessed advanced flying objects demonstrating complex maneuvers.

"The sightings were so frequent that they became part of daily briefs," Graves said in an opening statement to a Wednesday congressional hearing. He urged the government to stop hiding such reports through "excessive classification" and disclose what it knows.

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Wednesday's hearing by a subcommittee of the House Oversight Committee comes amid a surge in interest in Congress about unidentified aerial objects and whether they constitute a security threat. The Senate is considering a bipartisan measure that would force the government to disclose reported sightings of such objects and what it learns about them.

The measure, proposed by Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and other lawmakers, would be an amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act. It would declassify government records related to unidentified aerial phenomena.

"This is an issue of government transparency," Representative Tim Burchett, a Tennessee Republican, said as the hearing got underway. "We're going to uncover the cover-up."

Graves said military and civilian air crews are making "credible reports" of unidentified objects in US airspace "with regularity."

Retired Navy commander David Fravor described an encounter with a "white Tic Tac shaped object" after launching his fighter jet from the USS Nimitz aircraft carrier.

"There were no rotors, no rotor wash, or any visible flight control surfaces like wings," he said in his written testimony.

Asked if the objects constitute a security threat, Fravor said yes and added, "The technology that we faced is far superior to anything we had."

A retired US intelligence official told the House committee the government is running a secret program to assess wreckage from unidentified aerial objects.

"I was informed, in the course of my official duties, of a multi-decade UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program," David Grusch, who says he spent 14 years as an intelligence officer with the US Air Force and, later, the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, said in written testimony submitted to the panel.

The Defense Department created the All-Domain Anomoly Resolution Office in 2022 to investigate and keep records of sightings.

"The All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) has not discovered any verifiable information to substantiate claims that any programs regarding the possession or reverse-engineering of extraterrestrial materials have existed in the past or exist currently," Susan Gough, a Pentagon spokeswoman, said in an email.

An author who has researched the claims is also skeptical the objects will turn out to be of extraterrestrial origin.

"There is an increasingly concerted effort by the military and federal government to identify these suspicious sightings and try to figure out what they are," said Garrett Graff, author of UFO: The Inside Story of the US Government's Search for Alien Life Here "- and Out There.

Graff, who did not attend the hearing, said it is unlikely items found on Earth are derived by intelligent beings on other planets. "Across the last 75 years there's just not a lot of evidence to me that the government could have kept that secret that long, either on purpose or by accident," he said.

More likely, he said, the flying objects are man-made.

"There are UFOs and UAPs in that the US government has no idea what they are" said Graff, although he believes that these UAPs are "likely foreign or other advanced military technology being tested around the borders of the United States."

As of August 2022, the Defense Department had compiled 510 reports of such unidentified objects. Of those, 163 were determined to be balloons, 26 were drones or other man-made devices and six were birds, litter or weather events. The other 171 are categorized as "unattributed" and require additional research.

In testimony to a Senate panel in April, Sean Kirkpatrick, the director of the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office, said they actively pursue reports but have so far not found evidence of extraterrestrial visitors.

"I should state clearly for the record that in our research AARO has found no credible evidence thus far of extraterrestrial activity, off-world technology, or objects that defy the known laws of physics," Kirkpatrick testified.

Earlier this week, House Speaker Kevin McCarthy took a skeptical view of the claims of a Pentagon cover up.

"I think if we'd have found a UFO, I'd think the Department of Defense would tell us that they'd probably want to request more money," McCarthy told reporters.

"I'd love to see whatever facts and information we have," he said, adding that he is "very supportive of letting the American people see what we have."