Sandra Bullock, Mindy Kaling talk bonding over ‘Ocean’s 8’

On set, the stars deliberately cultivated an idealised simulacrum of the broader industry — female-led, open, nonhierarchical, mutually supportive

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When Ocean’s 8 began filming in October 2016 — with eight actresses reviving the testosterone-zested heist franchise that last winked at audiences in 2007 — Hillary Clinton was ahead in the polls, Harvey Weinstein was synonymous with Hollywood power, and few in the industry, let alone the public, had ever heard of the term “inclusion rider.”

The movie will be released on June 21 in the UAE in a dramatically different world. Tectonic shifts set off by the #MeToo and Time’s Up movements have thrust long overlooked perils for working women into sharp relief. And the film’s implicit argument — that the particular experiences of women have for too long been an afterthought — seems suddenly prescient.

On set, the stars deliberately cultivated an idealised simulacrum of the broader industry — female-led, open, nonhierarchical, mutually supportive. “We were all in the trailers sitting right next to each other — sharing, downloading, collaborating,” Sandra Bullock, who led a cast that included Cate Blanchett, Rihanna, Mindy Kaling and Anne Hathaway, said in a recent interview. “Everyone became a surrogate parent/best friend/therapist.”

Bullock, who was in Los Angeles, was joined by Kaling from New York in a three-way phone conversation and subsequent emails. Topics included double standards for men and women in Hollywood, Kaling’s secret on-set pregnancy, and the endurance of their all-star sisterhood, complete with lively group texting.

Did you know each other before shooting?
The Office
I’m picturing a buddy comedy with the two of you co-headlining.

KALING: Thank you. That’s such an amazing thing to say.

Did you get to share many personal moments?
Ocean’s
What did you want to know?
Do you think that kind of secrecy is a problem for the industry as a whole? Or in what ways is it more difficult for women?
A Wrinkle in Time
The movie finds an interesting way in to some of the gender politics you were mentioning. Many of the characters have been underestimated in their careers, and they use that to their advantage when they turn to crime. Are there still times when either of you feels underestimated professionally?

BULLOCK: I underestimate myself constantly, constantly — whether it’s in my own mind or whether it actually exists. I don’t take the business side personally, but I take my work personally because that’s a year of your life. And when I see inequality, when I see condescension, when I see people who are prominently displayed on a card for a job they are not fit for, I have a visceral reaction now that I’ve never had before.

It feels like we’re starting to see things shift, if only incrementally, towards a world where movies like ‘Ocean’s 8’ aren’t just considered women’s movies but are seen as potential blockbusters for all audiences. Are you feeling that shift in your own careers?
You’re not thinking about what the next few movies might be?

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